The Special Lists

The Special Lists, presented by Referral Lab, is the podcast for dentists and dental specialists.

Running a dental practice isn’t easy, and if you’re in private practice, it can sometimes feel like you’re on an island. That’s why finding your people—those who’ve been in your shoes and can share real, lived experience—changes the game.

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Recent Episodes

Special List #21: What I'd Tell My Younger Self After 31 Years in Solo Practice with Dr. Eman Traynor
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June 11, 2026

Special List #21: What I'd Tell My Younger Self After 31 Years in Solo Practice with Dr. Eman Traynor

The thing nobody tells you about running your own dental practice is that the anxiety doesn't quiet down — it just gets louder for the first 20 years, and then you look back and realize none of the things you were afraid of actually happened. Eman Traynor knows. She built Traynor Periodontics & Implants from scratch in Greenwich, Connecticut in 1998 and ran it solo for 27 years on a steady drip of stress she now wishes she'd ignored. What follows is her special list: five hard-won lessons from a
Special List #20: How Saying No to Endo, Ortho, and Implants Builds a Better Practice with Dr. Andrew Skasko
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May 28, 2026

Special List #20: How Saying No to Endo, Ortho, and Implants Builds a Better Practice with Dr. Andrew Skasko

Andrew Skasko spent a full year working shoulder-to-shoulder with his associate on every procedure, paying him the whole time, before they opened a second location together. That associate is now his partner across multiple practices, with three to four more sites in the pipeline. Skasko is a restorative dentist in New Albany, Ohio, a clinical assistant professor at Ohio State, and a two-decade Seattle Study Club member who's competed on the mainstage at the annual symposium. He joins Cameron, S
Special List #19: The Airway Step Most Cosmetic Cases Are Missing with Dr. Tracey Nguyen
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May 14, 2026

Special List #19: The Airway Step Most Cosmetic Cases Are Missing with Dr. Tracey Nguyen

AACD taught Dr. Tracey Nguyen to be good with her hands. The mouth–body connection taught her how to keep that work intact for years. Tracey is a restorative dentist, scientific advisor at the Kois Center, AACD Accredited Member, and co-founder of ASAP Pathway — the first comprehensive online education platform for pediatric airway and sleep dentistry. She joins Cameron, Dr. Seda, and Dr. Souyias to talk about why a beautiful smile won't hold up if you aren't also looking at how the person breat
Special List #18: Why the Biggest Stress in Dentistry Isn’t the Dentistry with Geri Gottlieb
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April 30, 2026

Special List #18: Why the Biggest Stress in Dentistry Isn’t the Dentistry with Geri Gottlieb

Running a dental practice isn't taught in dental school, and most owners learn it the hard way. Practice coach and former periodontal practice co-owner Geri Gottlieb joins the show to share what 30+ years in dentistry — and a humbling jump into ownership herself — taught her about what actually makes a practice work. Geri unpacks why dentistry is a team sport, why culture is anything but soft, and why a culture is whatever you tolerate, not what you write on the wall. She breaks down the charact
Special List #17: How Structure and Core Values Drive Better Hiring with Dr. Justin Zalewsky
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March 26, 2026

Special List #17: How Structure and Core Values Drive Better Hiring with Dr. Justin Zalewsky

Beyond clinical skill, running a successful dental practice requires clear vision, strong systems, and the right people. Periodontist and MAZ Management co-founder Dr. Justin Zalewsky shares the leadership principles that guide his approach, including organizing life into three buckets — work, thinking, and personal time — and using tools like impact filters to keep projects and teams aligned. He explains how core values and structure shape hiring, promotions, and day-to-day decision-making. Jus
Special List #16: Long-Game Strategies For Thriving Practices with Dr. David Lee Hill
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March 12, 2026

Special List #16: Long-Game Strategies For Thriving Practices with Dr. David Lee Hill

What does it really take to build a dental practice that’s future-proof and not just profitable? Through relentless investment in safety, leadership, and education, oral and maxillofacial surgeon Dr. David Lee Hill shaped Chapel Hill Oral Surgery...